Re: [dnswl-users] List maintenance strategies...

[Patrick Domack <patrickdk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

(from another dnswl user)

Isn't this all just reinventing the wheel?

Other people setting up the same things have issues getting users to  
report verified spam, cause every user has a different idea of what  
spam is, and most users find delete to be much quicker and easier to  
solve the problem.

The current policy says they will monitor common maillists and rbl's  
and dnswl ip's that match will be delisted.

I think the current method is ok, it could probably be improved by  
joining with people like spamcop directly. But if your completely  
paranoid of a dnswl ip is sending spam on a short lived bases (till  
the admin of that ip corrects the problem), then maybe it would be  
more benifitual to run with the spamhaus/spamcop rbl's before the  
dnswl one. This probably won't benifit many people, unless you run a  
completely crazy overprotective blacklists after dnswl.

Quoting Alessandro Vesely <vesely@xxxxxxx>:

> Hi all,
> I recently registered at DNSWL, and am curious how it works.
>
> I found very little notices about it, e.g. when has it been founded,
> who pays, why it's not on wikipedia, and similar amenities...
>
> I read in http://www.dnswl.org/background
> > it is believed that abusive activities will cease upon reasonably   
> > short notice to the appropriate abuse contact
>
> I don't think DNSWL receives abuse reports in some semi-automated
> manner. While larger ESPs have some way to set up feedback loops, no
> practice is currently standardized for that, AFAIK. Not even the ARF
> itself.
>
> A fair practice could be for users so send abuse reports to their ESPs
> who, in turn, could forward them to DNSWL if the sender was
> registered. DNSWL could take note and forward that report to the
> registered sender's feedback loop contact. This could be largely
> automated (except for the user submitting the first report) and
> result, e.g., in automatically banning naughty users for a time
> proportional to the numbers of complaints. Just an idea. However, a
> Thunderbird extension for submitting ARF messages exists, IIRC.
>
> Thanks and greetings from Milan to all
> Ale
>
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